Dan Nexon, at The Duck of Minerva, reacts to the following passage from André Glucksmann’s article in my “Fact vs. Faith” post
Our planet is not in the grips of a clash of civilisations or cultures. It is the battleground of a decisive struggle between two ways of thinking. There are those who declare that there are no facts, but only interpretations – so many acts of faith. These either tend toward fanaticism (‘I am the truth’) or they fall into nihilism (‘nothing is true, nothing is false’).
with these words:
Whatever the merits of Glucksmann’s other arguments, this doesn’t strike me as very credible. The contemporary zeitgeist is not a great clash between those who believe there are “no facts, but only interpretations” and those who believe in the possibility of truly objective knowledge. Holding the former view—or some variation of it—does not produce a trend towards “fanaticism” or “nihilism.”
I’m willing to concede two things to Nexon:
- Not everyone who agrees with the proposition that there are no facts, but only interpretations is necessarily a fanatic or a nihilist. Obviously, someone who believes that we exist in a world devoid of facts can do so without being prone to violence or incenting others to be violent. Somewhat less obviously, someone who believes in a factless world can believe in emotional ties—to another person, a family, a tribe, or a nation. Such a person cannot reasonably be categorized as a nihilist. This assumes, of course, that emotional ties are not considered to be “facts.”
- Believing in the existence of facts does not equate to pure objectivity. How one interprets facts is clearly conditionned by both environmental (family, education, socioeconomic status) and biological factors (as manifested in one’s psychological makeup). Thus, there is no such thing as an objective interpretation of facts. But this does not mean that there are no facts (yes, the sun does rise every morning).
Notwithstanding these concessions, Nexon misses a critical point: for some people, doubting the existence of facts induces pathological behavior. Blogfriend Mark Safranski at Zenpundit explains this by citing Eric Hoffer’s True Believer:
- Irrational schools of thought, regardless of whether their origin is secular or religious are profoundly seductive because they offer the mind a ” free lunch”. They permit or even enshrine common logical fallacies such as special pleading, begging the question or appeal to authority as virtues. They are also, by their rarefied narrowness and lack of identifiable, quantifiable and reliable ” yardstick” to self-critically evaluate, tailor made to create the kind of individual who Eric Hoffer called The True Believer:
Far more crucial than what we know or do not know is what we do not want to know. One often obtains a clue to a person’s nature by discovering the reasons for his or her imperviousness to certain impressions.
- . . . A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self.
- The epistemological method that becomes the dominant mode of thought in a given society determines its attitude on all great questions – from peace and war to prosperity and what it considers to be “good”. Political conflicts over intellectual shams like ” intelligent design” matter because they are questions of the legitimacy or falsehood of a particular cognitive method.
A more current diagnosis of the True Believer Syndrome comes from Alan Johnson, a self-described member of the democratic left, in the current issue of Democratiya:
. . . the left has not seen the terrorist threat plain. Like the dreamy citizens of Oran in Camus’ novel The Plague, it has embraced denial (‘there are no rats’) or worse – incoherent anti-Americanism (‘the rats are to be defended’) or self-loathing (‘we are the rats’).
. . . to parts of the left the terrorists of Al Qaeda are no more real than were the rats of Oran to the dreamy city-dwellers in Camus’ allegory. Why is Tony Blair trying to frighten us?, asked the Spectator (now Guardian) columnist Simon Jenkins… on the morning of the Madrid bombings. ‘The Power of Nightmares’ was the title of a BBC documentary that told us the threat was a mere fiction dreamt up by dastardly ‘neocons’ to boost western imperialism … and then came a host of further terrorist atrocities, including 7/7. ‘There is no threat, repeat after me, there is no threat,’ wrote the film-maker Michael Moore. Moore looks at the terrorists in Iraq – the serial killers, the beheaders, the assassins of election workers and women assembly members, the mass murderers of the Shia in their mosques and marketplaces – and he sees… the Minutemen of the 18th century democratic American Revolution.
I think parts of the left are searching for answers to terrorism on their own preferred ‘dry ground’: ‘Imperialist troops out now!’ ‘Victory to the heroic anti-imperialist resistance!’; ‘Blowback!’ ‘Bush is the real terrorist!’
As suggested by Johnson, the prevalent manifestation, in the West and elsewhere, of the True Believer Syndrome is the rejection of a message because of the identity of the messenger. Recent examples of this phenomenon—by its perpetrators and their observers—are almost too numerous to mention. Here are a few:
- The best example comes from Steven Groopman, writing in the New Republic Online:
I watched the [State of the Union] speech at an event sponsored by the Center for American Progress Action Fund, perhaps the most high-profile liberal advocacy organization in the country. A panel of pundits—which included radio commentator Sam Seder as well as several liberal bloggers—were there to “decode, debunk, and deride” Bush’s speech in real time on Air America.
A packed house of 100 or so viewers huddled around a few plasma screen TVs to watch the address. Early on, when Bush invoked September 11, the audience let out a loud groan and snickered. Seconds later, the president mentioned “weapons of mass destruction” for the first time. A bell rang, and the audience laughed; then Bush said the words “freedom” and “terror” and bells rang again, followed by more laughter. This ritual was repeated throughout the speech whenever Bush uttered any of these words or phrases.
This made me wonder: Why the visceral reaction to these particular formulations? The speech contained plenty of lines worthy of ridicule, and Bush certainly uses his share of dishonest conservative catchphrases (“activist judges” for instance). But spreading freedom around the world is—or should be—a paramount goal of liberalism. Meanwhile, terrorism remains a real threat to America, and a source of continuing death and destruction the world over. As for “weapons of mass destruction”: A fanatical regime in Iran with a history of sponsoring terrorism and a stated desire to see Israel “wiped off the map” is well on its way to having such weapons. This is not an invention of the Republican imagination; it is reality. Why, then, laugh at Bush’s warning that “Dictatorships shelter terrorists, and feed resentment and radicalism, and seek”—get ready for that bell to ring—”weapons of mass destruction”?
[ . . . ] if liberals disagree with Bush’s means, they can still remain sympathetic to his ends. Even the most vociferous critic of the Iraq war, or the most zealous opponent of domestic wiretapping, should agree that preventing terror, denying nuclear weapons to dictatorships, and opposing tyranny are worthy goals.
And yet when Bush spoke of “writing a new chapter in the story of self-government,” spectators burst into laughter. When he said, “Ultimately, the only way to defeat the terrorists is to defeat their dark vision of hatred and fear by offering the hopeful alternative of political freedom and peaceful change,” I heard a mix of bell ringing and belly laughs. Why is the goal of promoting “political freedom” worthy of such derision?
The point is bigger than just one gathering at a liberal organization. In the years since September 11, many liberals seem to have concluded that you’re not really opposing Bush’s means unless you also scorn his stated ends. That’s too bad. Liberals have no chance of winning the national security debate if they dismiss its premises. I think most liberals recognize this, but some are so disgusted with the current administration that they feel compelled to oppose—and to mock—anything with Bush’s name on it . . .
- Ron Rosenbaum’s farewell letter to the Left.
- Glenn Greenwald’s comments on an op-ed by Bill Bennett and Alan Dershowitz in the Washington Post.
- An article in the Huffington Post describing the War in Terror as the biggest hoax of all time.
- A blogger present at Bush’s speech last October claiming that “Bush Accuses Islamic Militants of Trying to Intimidate World.”
- The Antiwar League claiming that the War on Terror is a “fantasy” war.
Good stuff, Marc. I’ll come back at it later on (a bit swamped right now). I guess my initial reaction is more to the stuff at the bottom. I have a very smart, clear-headed colleague at Mershon who has written extensively—and quite credibly—on the War on Terror. His argument is that terrorism is not a serious threat, and that the WoT is a kind of fraud. Now, whether one agrees or disagrees with him, there is no way to claim that his arguments aren’t reasoned, well-documented, and thoughtful. And here’s the rub: if he’s right, it is the WoT types who are making an irrational, unfactual argument, i.e., the shoe might be on the other foot when it comes to the “True Believer Syndrome.”
In debating one of my liberal friends about government provided health care for the uninsured, he continued to dismiss my arguments out of hand because they didn’t fit his ideology despite the fact that I was not insured then (and while I was briefly am not now). He was insured and I was not and yet he constantly claimed that he was acting in the interests of the uninsured. But I was the only person he actually knew who was uninsured and he refused to consider my opinion. Instead he would always counter with a made-up story about someone who didn’t have insurance but who never existed because it was a better fit. Needless to say it is difficult to have a logical argument with someone under these conditions.
“Now, whether one agrees or disagrees with him, there is no way to claim that his arguments aren’t reasoned, well-documented, and thoughtful.”
That’s completely irrelevant. You can be “reasoned, well-documented, and thoughtful” and be catastrophically wrong. You can craft a well-reasoned argument in favor of anything you want. It’s actually important to be right, and to be right in time to make a difference.
“if he’s right, it is the WoT types who are making an irrational, unfactual argument”
Here we are 4 1/2 years after 9/11, 12 years after al Qaeda’s first attack on the WTC and you’re presenting as evidence something that you preface “if he’s right”? Isn’t it a little late for that? “If he’s right” it would have been more useful to present his theory in, say, 1994. Al Qaeda has been operating for quite a while now and has been openly targeting the US for more than a decade. And you have a colleague who “might” be right about the WoT being a fraud? These are the thoughts of people who enjoy the security and the luxury and no deadline to muse on about issues without any kind of reality check. It’s not “True Believer Syndrome” that we are dealing with, but rather “Not Having To Face Reality Syndrome.”
Dan,
I hope you will provide links to your friend’s writings. If they aren’t available online, please send me an email with his writings as attachments.
Thanks.
Marc: I’ve been preparing a post on it. The most recent article he’s published is behind a subscription firewall, but I’ve got a summary and some comments. He’s working on a book.
Phil: completely agree with you about cognitive bias and all that. Happens a lot on any side of a given issue. As for the second part, well, this is all post-9/11 and its based on straightforward risk analysis and cost-benieft calculations. Terrorism is a threat in the sense of it kills people, but he argues it isn’t dangerous enough to justify the degree to which it now dominates policy making and homeland security expenditures.
Quite frankly, the amount of money lining the pockets of Beltway (and elsewhere) contractors in the name of homeland security should give anyone pause. The closest analogy I can think of is the “Beltway Bandits” of SDI. A lot of people in Washington (where I live) are making a lot of money providing questionable benefits in return. Part of this is a matter of spending smart versus spending stupid, but Mueller’s argument goes further.
Dan: I look forward to reading your post and will suspend judgement accordingly.
As far as lot’s o’ money lining the pockets of contractors and others, that’s a serious problem we would be facing with or without the WoT. We taxpayers are spending an awful lot of money throughout the go’vt and are getting “questionable benefits in return.” But that’s a topic for another time.
Re the Groopman quote: I touched on many of the same arguments here, but from the perspective of a liberal and a Bush opponent. Be advised: when we hoot at Bush’s statements about democracy and fighting terrorism it isn’t always because we disagree with the statements. More often it’s because Bush’s rhetoric and Bush’s actions are rarely in the same ball park. He says ABC, but does XYZ. To us, when Bush talks about “democracy” it’s like listening to Donald Trump talk about frugality—a joke, in other words. To righties, however, Bush’s rhetoric is all that matters, and reality is just an inconvenient minor detail.
One of the reasons Left and Right can’t communicate is that you righties have no clue what we on the Left actually believe. You make up straw men to disagree with; you cherry pick our fringe whackjobs and conflate these with the mainstream Left (Michelle Malkin seems to be making a career of this.)
The post above is full of wrong assumptions and fallacies about the Left. Once I might have been willing to open a dialogue to discuss what these are, but whenever I express an opinion to a rightie that doesn’t square with the leftie straw man in his head he assumes I’m lying. I gave up awhile back.
maha,
Just as there’s more than one “Right” (neocons, paleocons, Christian fundamentalists), there’s more than one “Left.” In fact, the Left has more or less always been splintered. A problem I have is that there seems to be no generally accepted leftist typology, so leftists are all lumped together in one group. And the problem with that is that they all get painted with the same brush.
There’s a world of difference between Michael Walzer, Norman Geras, and Alan Johnson (the author of the Democratiya article that I cite in this post), on the one hand, and Michael Moore and George Galloway (do leftists consider him to be a leftist?), on the other.
If you would take the time to explore my blog, you’d discover that I’m a self-described 9/11 Republican who didn’t vote Republican in 1988, 1992, 1996, and 2000. To depict me as a “rightie” is simply wrong and makes you guilty of the same sin that you’re accusing me of.
So tell me what the Left actually believes. I’m willing to listen. Are you willing to listen to me?
Most mainstream leftists and liberals, I presume (or hope), consider Galloway a waste of good oxygen :-).